Jeff wants to know if we can kill em all now

On Aug 18, 2004, at 4:30 PM, Jeff Evans wrote:

--A report on May 28 in Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported that an Iranian intelligence unit has established a center called “The Brigades of the Shahids of the Global Islamic Awakening.” The paper claimed that it had obtained a tape with a speech by Hassan Abbassi, a Revolutionary Guards intelligence theoretician who teaches at Al-Hussein University. In the tape, Mr. Abbassi spoke of Tehran’s secret plans, which include “a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization.”

“Woe to the enemy if Khamenei commands me to wage jihad,” Mr. Khamenei said, “If someone harms our people and invades our country, we will endanger his interests anywhere in the world.” --

May we kill them now?
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Winterbear responds:
You can kill em now... but it wont do any good. In fact, it makes things worse.

First of all, people in the USA write/say goofy shit like this every day. Listen to Art Bells show every night... or read the writings of the various conspiracey theorists or religious fundamentalists. Or the neocons of the Bush admin for that matter. The best thing to do is just ignore it.

If the transendental meditation new age Californians invaded Texas for no reason and were breaking into our houses and torturing our kids in captured prisions... well, we might draw up a document called "a strategy drawn up for the destruction of new age california civilization."

dont mess with texas....

real point? Radical islam is tiny today... very few people actual support it and even less are willing to take part in the violence. It only has credence in a few places. Its about the size of the KKK in this country at its hight in the 1920's.

But as long as we poke the moderate people in the eyes, ignorantly lumping all Moslems into the same basket and we keep treating em like subhuman morons, they are going to keep getting stronger until they actually become a real threat to our civilization. Gandhi had it right, Violence is not the answer and only makes the enemy stronger. For every one you kill, 3 more pop up.

9-11 was a crime, not an act of war. We could suffer a 9-11 style act ever few months and it would not "destroy our civilization". It would suck but as long as opportunists like Karl Rove didnt use it for political gain and another opportunity to invade another country, it wouldnt amount to much. Most of the damage we have suffered in the west since 9-11 has been self inflicted. Either by blind fear of this tiny marginalized threat or by over reaction by people that have a selfish financial interest in US hegmony, colonial conquest and militarism.

less than 4000 people have died from Terrorist activity in the USA in the last 20 years. Dude, thats a bad labor day weekend on our highways...

If re-elected the neocons are going to use documents like this as an excuse to invade Iran. If for no other reason, we should throw them out of office for this.

The best thing that could happen is to get the relations between Iran and the US normalized like the way we have done in Vietnam. Sure, there are some radical elements both inside and outside of Iranian government that hate us. Same can be said about the US radicals hating Iran. But if we will stop acting unilaterally and doing stupid obnoxious things on the world stage we can strenghthen the moderate majority inside Iran. There is no reason to go to war with these people. Just like Iraq (in fact worse, because they have a real army) its a loose/loose situation for all involved... in fact, it could lead to WW4 if it goes nuts. Which seems to be something our nut job right wing wants to see happen.

Just like our olympic basketball team learned on sunday... the USA will not win every contest for ever and ever, amen. Some day our republic will crumble into dust. That day will be all the sooner if we allow the morons who have hijacked the Republican party to invading Iran and widen our conflict with Islam to the rest of the world and it becomes the next world war. That ain't good for nobody, old friend.